Civil Liberties vs. National Security
In a recent overview of a panel discussion hosted by the Chicago Friends of Israel there was two panelists Richard Posner and Andrew McCarthy speaking for National Security and Geoffrey Stone holding a voice for Civil Liberties. Well arguments on both sides manifested and all as to be read in the corresponding Ars Technica Article that summarizes the panel discussion quite nice. What is interesting so is the last commend by Andrew McCarthy an outspoken National Security fetishist:
"we have to grow up and accept the fact that we have to accept some intrusion on our liberties if we're going to save the system that is the guarantor of our liberties."
Great... Give up Civil Liberties to save them? Who else finds that statement the most stupid idea ever? Who else thinks that this aint making any sense whatsoever? And there seem to be people out there - yes even the majority of people - following that bullshit ideas - talk about descending of civilisation.